Using ideas from Shelah's recent proof that a completely separable maximal almost disjoint family exists when $\mathfrak{c} \lt {\aleph}_{\omega}$, we construct a weakly tight family under the hypothesis $\mathfrak{s} \leq \mathfrak{b} \lt {\aleph}_{\omega}$. The case when $\mathfrak{s} \lt \mathfrak{b}$ is handled in $\mathrm{ZFC}$ and does not require $\mathfrak{b} \lt {\aleph}_{\omega}$, while an additional PCF type hypothesis, which holds when $\mathfrak{b} \lt {\aleph}_{\omega}$ is used to treat the case $\mathfrak{s} = \mathfrak{b}$. The notion of a weakly tight family is a natural weakening of the well studied notion of a Cohen indestructible maximal almost disjoint family. It was introduced by Hrušák and García Ferreira, who applied it to the Katétov order on almost disjoint families.

We throw some light on the question: is there a MAD family (a maximal family of infinite subsets of $\mathbb{N}$, the intersection of any two is finite) that is saturated (completely separable \emph{i.e.,} any $X \subseteq \mathbb{N}$ is included in a finite union of members of the family \emph{or} includes a member (and even continuum many members) of the family). We prove that it is hard to prove the consistency of the negation: (i) if $2^{\aleph_0} \lt \aleph_\omega$, then there is such a family; (ii) if there is no such family, then some situation related to pcf holds whose consistency is large (and if ${\mathfrak a}_* \gt \aleph_1$ even unknown); (iii) if, \emph{e.g.,} there is no inner model with measurables, \emph{then} there is such a family.